Blog Entry

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

Posted on: December 22, 2010 12:04 am
Edited on: December 22, 2010 12:06 am
Posted by Matt Norlander

You will be able to read a column from our esteemed leader, Gary Parrish, who was at the game, in just a little bit. Until then, here's your blog analysis, being that the game's gone final and the big news from the night is well-known.

Shortly before the team was scheduled to play UNLV Tuesday night (who knew this was being dubbed the Hy-Vee Wildcat Classic?), Kansas State released the news: stars Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly were suspended from playing, effective immediately. Pullen will sit three games; Kelly's punishment isn't known, but it's expected to be longer than that.

"These young men have worked hard to represent themselves and Kansas State in a positive manner," KSU coach Frank Martin said in a brief statement. "Having said that, they made a mistake in judgment and have to pay a price."

The mistake was, according to sources, the two getting discounts on clothing at a department store from a female employee. (Want to know why Kelly's impending punishment is probable to be more severe than Pullen's, by the way.) Just a couple of college guys perhaps flirting with a friend/acquaintance and making a mistake. The primary point of criticism you'll read in the coming hours: Kelly and Pullen knew better.

Not should have known better, but knew better. Their discount on threads is only a secondary violation, fortunately, but it's one every scholarship athlete is schooled and talked to about annually. Don't take things from other people. Don't accept gifts. Don't try and skirt the rules on gifts.

But they did, so prices to pay, etc. Can you imagine if all of this is over a pair of gym shorts and a couple of socks?

As for the game, the news of the two's benching caused the Vegas line to hop immediately. In this case, it seems very clear had Pullen and Kelly been on the floor at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, the Wildcats would have won. But they didn't, and Vegas (11-2) defeated Martin's club, 63-59. Kansas State fell to 9-3. We can fairly and definitively connect A to B here: Kelly and Pullen attempting to obfuscate the rules cost their team at least one win.

And the game wasn't the only thing lost on behalf of the Wildcats Tuesday night; K-State sophomore Rodney McGruder lost a tooth after his chompers slammed against the maple midway through the second half.

The one thing about this game and the next few: The results might not have too much of an effect on K-State's seeding. After all, the NCAA Tournament selection committee judges a team on the state it was in for wins and losses and evaluates/adjusts to the personnel a team has come Tournament time. If the Wildcats go on a big winning tear after the two return, this may not even cost Martin's team a seed line.

You can follow Norlander on Twitter: @CHJournal

Photo: Getty Images


Since: Dec 20, 2010
Posted on: December 22, 2010 5:43 pm

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

Very well said. I applaud you sir, for your perspective on college atheletics. I couldn't agree more!

Since: Mar 28, 2010
Posted on: December 22, 2010 1:20 pm

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

I stated in my first post that I am a KU fan dealing with Mario Little's recent arrest. If you would check out my post in the Mario Little arrested post you will find that I am in favor of dismissing Mario from the KU team.
As I started the post about Pullen and Kelly it was an attempt at sarcastic humor. Forgive me. I also stated that it is too bad athletes need to learn lessons in this way.
I commend Frank Martin for his swift and decisive action. I commend Bill Self for his as well. I hope Self goes on to dismiss Little from the KU team.
For any morons out there who want to make this a contest about KU vs. KSU, you are missing the point! This is a problem about college athletics in our time! It is also a revelation of our current society.
We as fans need to quit justifying OUR teams by comparing them to another program, and stand for something important like- integrity or character. College athletics should be more about developing future leaders.
I applaud the efforts of any coach who keeps his players accountable to something besides W's in the win column.  

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2010 11:28 am

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

MR.NORLANDER--- At least today --you write about something somewhat newsworthy as opposed to yesterday ranting & poking at R.Pitino fo not getting crazy over headaches & having a sense of humor.. You're coming along--Happy Holidays !!

Since: Sep 15, 2009
Posted on: December 22, 2010 11:11 am

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

@... I live in Manhattan and I saw them at a Dillard's about a month ago clothes shopping... no joke.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2010 11:03 am

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

I feel like I'm having deja vu.  Is this 1999?  Were they at a Dillard's?  I can't wait for Pullen to release his statement, "It's not like I killed the President."

Since: Feb 2, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2010 10:59 am

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

Way to go K-State. Taking care of what needs to be done to teach these kids responsibility for thier actions. Something KU know nothing about. Whatever it takes to win huh Kansas?

A true champion in K-State. Good job coach.

Since: Feb 6, 2010
Posted on: December 22, 2010 10:58 am

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

I can only hope that people appreciate Frank Martin and his unwavering examples.  He continues to discipline his young men, attempting to mold them into productive citizens and future leaders.  Thank you, for caring about your STUDENT/athletes and teaching us all that wrong is not right.  May you and your young men reap the benefits of your outstanding leadership.

An admiring Poke fan.

Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2010 9:59 am

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

Not allowed to be at the game at all, and they weren't.  They were in Manhatten.
And anyone that sees a connection between getting a deal on clothes and rape and murder is drunk or stupid.  The problem is the rules are so illogical.  

Since: Oct 6, 2010
Posted on: December 22, 2010 9:02 am

Without Pullen and Kelly, K-State falls to UNLV

rock chalk jayhawk k-state and beardman r done

Since: Apr 8, 2008
Posted on: December 22, 2010 8:35 am
This comment has been removed.

Post Deleted by Administrator

The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the views of CBS Sports or