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Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

Posted on: January 11, 2011 12:30 pm
Edited on: January 11, 2011 2:08 pm
 
Posted by Matt Norlander

The game isn't until Feb. 26 (Senior Night for Chris Wright, Austin Freeman and Julian Vaughn), but there's already a lot of controversy surrounding it. And although this looks mighty unfair, I think it's bloody fantastic, primarily because it adds another layer to the hatred between the fanbases.

Syracuse vs. Georgetown is a top-five rivalry in college basketball, and this is a premier example of why. Syracuse, having loads of alumni based in greater Washington, D.C., almost always has terrific fan support for the Orange's annual trip into the District.

The game is much less of a home feel for Georgetown whenever SU shows up. Understandably, this irks the Hoyas' alumni base. But, hey, don't let SU fans snatch up the tickets, right? Well, obstructions have been put in place for that. Now it seems those with power of ticket distribution want to make it as tough and annoying as possible for SU fans to see their team. Look for yourself: it appears individual game tickets can't be purchased on Ticketmaster.

It's not been an out-and-out cold shoulder, but let's just say some savvy folks in charge of distributing tickets have made it a pain for Orange fans to get ducats. And Georgetown has done what other teams at all levels have: force fans to buy group tickets to make more money and sell more seats for less-desired games.

It's the mask that's donned so Syracuse fans can't just purchase a one-game-only stub for the SU-Georgetown tilt on Feb. 26. Also worth knowing: This is the first scheduled home game against Syracuse on a weekend in five years. Demand: high. Georegetown's options: plentiful. Barring a Hoyas collapse, this will be a tough ticket.

The excellent Orange-flavored blog, Troy Nunes is an Absolute Magician, has been all over this for more than a week now, as this has been a smoldering topic since shortly after the new year began.

I spoke with a D.C.-based SU alum who clued me in to how this works. See, every year, Georgetown goes to alumni clubs around the District and disperses tons of tickets for opposing teams' fans to buy. Syracuse was flatly ignored this year. But diligent SU fans, like the ones behind Otto's Army, obfuscated this quagmire and found a way to get tickets: make a $25 dollar donation to Georgetown University. Then you get your single-game ticket.

Here's the proof.

Call it a Hoya tax, if you will. It's infuriating for SU faithful, but it's working.The aforementioned alum told me yesterday what the experience was like when she called over the phone to obtain tickets.

"When I called myself the kid was like, 'Yeah, we still have hundreds of tickets. But unless you donate you can't have them.' Obnoxious," she said.

Somehow, this rivalry has gotten not nearly the pub it deserves in the past five years, when both programs have been strong. Things like this keep it as hateful and sinister as any. No matter how Georgetown tries to spin this, it's obvious: The school is doing its best to keep as many Syracuse fans out of the building in seven weeks.

In doing so, the Orange fires appear to have been stoked that much more.

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Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:43 am
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

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Since: Jan 11, 2011
Posted on: January 12, 2011 2:30 pm
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

It's absurd and ignorant for anyone to claim that the Georgetown staff is discriminating against Syracuse or that they would soon discriminate based on race. They are taking care of their own fans by offering them the opportunity to purchase additional tickets to this game before releasing them to the general public. As long as their fans are buying the tickets, which they are, they aren't losing any revenue. This is always the goal for every department - take care of your own fans first and hopefully sell enough season tickets, mini plan, etc. so that you don't have to release tickets to the general public. No athletics department wants to fill their stadium/arena with opposing team fans if they can avoid it.  It's not discriminating, it's a home game and they owe it to the players and coaches to provide that type of atmosphere for home games. 




Since: Jan 11, 2011
Posted on: January 12, 2011 1:17 pm
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

Its not just Cuse fans that are being shut out.....perhaps the reporter got the information wrong that Georgetown is irritated that their fan base is smaller than opposing teams....however actions speak louder than words. 

I had no trouble getting SU tickets when I drove home 8 hrs to see my team.  Nor did we treat the Notre Dame fans poorly when they were in our facility.  Next Georgetown will be discriminating against color of our skin......

And revenue is lost for alot of people surrounding the event, doesn't take my 12yr old not to know that.  100% of funds do not go back to the college.  They have to pay to use the Verizon center.  And yeah the Dome can seat more people, so and we fill it being SU fans or opposing, or just someone who loves the game, we don't discriminate up North!

Perhaps my family will dump their yearly tradition and boycott this matchup from now on.  I'd rather spend more $ and travel time to go home or to another game my team is playing where sportsmanship is still a part of the game!  I'm sure your players and coach have more class than their peers acting stupid and coming up with this dumb idea.  For your sake I hope your clever marketing scheme works out in your favor, but be prepared for it to blow up in your face since it is said the whole basis for it was your lower than opposing teams fanbase turnout. 

Not every team can be winners, and its sad if fans only go to games if their team consistantly win, I'll admit I won't go to a football game or watch it as our team in my opinion was terrible for years.  But the countless dedicated fans still pack the Dome, football, bball, lacrosse! 

The one thing in these responses I do see from SU fans is that for the most part they see this is both sides loosing.....Georgetown you are only seeing 1 side, I seriously hope the team is concentrating more on their game and the students and faculty on education.  Obviously the brain child of this is NOT!



Since: Jan 11, 2011
Posted on: January 12, 2011 12:36 pm
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

There is no issue here. They aren't struggling to sell tickets to this game. All of you SU fans are just whining because it's difficult for you to get tickets, and you're pissed off because it's a great idea.

Again Georgetown is 1/3 the size of the schools you are comparing, and a large percentage of their student body does not hail from the DMV area nor reside there after graduation. There are countless entertainment options in DC outside of the sports realm, and it's not a homer, sports crazy city either - it's the nation's capital. Georgetown draws well and with many more obstacles than Syracuse and every other school you mentioned face.

Georgetown doesn't schedule games against Maryland because of incidents that were caused by UMD fans at their last meeting; ECU fans don't travel for basketball and neither do VT fans, they are football loyal schools; Mason Nation? Seriously, that's one of your examples? Talk about irrelevant. The Duke game - not anywhere close to half dookies. Same ticketing strategy for that game- never went on sale to the general public - clearly a great success!

BIG EAST pre-season player of the year.

We'll just see about irrelevant.







Since: Oct 29, 2009
Posted on: January 12, 2011 10:05 am
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

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Excuses, excuses. Georgetown is an embarrassment. If you have a good team and a good fan base, this wouldn't be an issue. Just look up the road to Villanova. They pack the house every game with multiple pro sports teams (who are ALL doing better than any of their DC counterparts) AND other college basketball teams to complete with including Temple (consistently ranked), Drexel (beat L'ville), Saint Joes, UPenn, LaSalle, and even PhillyU at the DII level (winningist coach in NCAA).

 

Syracuse can pack the house and I'm sure you people down in DC are terrified of more than 3 inches of snow, so I understand you not coming up, but you have the option (because you know, this is AMERICA). Georgetown is actively trying to keep me out, that's messed up and pathetic.

 



Since: Mar 19, 2007
Posted on: January 12, 2011 1:20 am
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

So you're telling me that people care more about the Washington teams than Georgetown?  HAH!  The Redskins are a joke.  Albert hainesworth is probably the fattest slob in sports.  The Nationals are a joke and have the #1 pick virtually every year.  The Wizards teammates were ready to shoot each other in the locker room.  The Caps were bounced in the 1st round to the 8th seed last year in the playoffs.   And behind all of these teams is Georgetown.

Georgetown is irrelevent.

The good news is that by the time this game is being played, Georgetown will probably be just as irrelevent in the Big East standings.  1-3 already and at least another 6 losses will occur before this game.  Pitt continues the trend.  Take your pick of either game in Jersey, Rutgers whooped you guys last year.  Nova's guards will leave GTown's pudgy guards in their vapor trail.  Louisville's forwards will have GTown's non-existent bigs on the bench in no time.  You haven't won in Syracuse in who knows how long.  We spotted you 12 points last year and still won by nearly 20.  UConn, Marquette, Cincinnati, all 3 could beat Georgetown.  And that's when the flood of tickets to stubhub will occur, and once again the VZ center will be painted orange.



Since: Jun 12, 2010
Posted on: January 11, 2011 11:34 pm
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

After living in DC for the last 12 years, I find that many Big East and regional university out number Geogetown fans at the Verizon Center.  WVU had tons of fans last Saturday and it has been known that Georgetown has been "afraid" to schedule the following non-conference schools as they are very concerned that these universities would bring more fans to the Verizon Center: Penn State, Virginia Tech, Maryland, East Carolina, and George Mason.  Georgetown has scheduled the likes of Duke where the Verizon Center was a 50 / 50 split among fans but they will not schedule any other those other regional teams mentioned above as they would be embarassed by their university's lack of support. 



Since: Jan 11, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2011 9:53 pm
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

It's a football stadium. And what else is there to do in Syracuse on a Saturday anyway? Or Monday... Or Tuesday... or Wednesday? Try competing against multiple pro sports markets, not to mention other countless entertainment opportunities DC has to offer, with 1/3 of the student body.



Since: Dec 27, 2010
Posted on: January 11, 2011 9:37 pm
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

It is beautiful in Syracuse this time of year. Please remember that the Carrier Dome is an on campus facility. It does fill up for quality oppenents, but if you are one of the first 31,000 or so, you will get a view of the court anyway. No population and a full Dome, D.C. has many more people to market to.




Since: Jan 11, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2011 9:27 pm
 

Gtown making it tough for 'Cuse fans to buy tix

I would say so, considering the Carrier Dome seats over twice what Verizon Center holds... and considering that 'Manley Field House is officially closed.'
Thanks for the invite, but no thanks on Upstate New York.


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