2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

Pumpkin, it is hard watching the Steelers now. The last 2 seasons every game I have watched they lost,

Just makes the victories that much sweeter

How many picks do these damn teams have to blow on QBs before they realize that the rest of their teams needs a major overhaul?

Demo,

Just ask Mano or Beach.  They will enlighten you as they did (almost) the entire Browns board. 

How many picks do these damn teams have to blow on QBs before they realize that the rest of their teams needs a major overhaul?

Demo,

Just ask Mano or Beach.  They will enlighten you as they did (almost) the entire Browns board. 

Mano or Beach never clamored for the likes of Blaine Gabbert or Christian Ponder. We wanted you to draft Cam Newton with your 5th pick (early when no one considered him the top pick) in 2011 and move up and get RGIII this year.

They went with Weeden instead, so be it. At least they grabbed a guy who can throw it to the outside and make teams play the whole field. Watching Colt make those lollipop throws was nauseating.

You guys will all be trying to get us to put Greg Little and Mohammed Massaquoi on the All AFC North Team this time next year.

Gidion, as a Steelers fan I love that we are frequently the beneficiaries of the multitudes of reaches that happen every year. As an NFL fan and more specifically as a draft fan it's nauseating. I know these players are crap, but the GMs running these teams are willing to put crap on the field if it means dumb fans buy more tickets. That's not competitive football; it's dollar signs and good PR because of great grades from pundits. Meanwhile teams seldom improve and are often set back years because of these decisions. I love the rookie wage scale, but in a way it has allowed GMs to take more stupid risks because it means less financial backlash. It's all about the money.

And next year we may be looking at Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson as our top 2 picks, when it's arguable that neither is the best QB in next year's class to begin with. You've got to be at least a little sickened by that as a football fan.

Mano or Beach never clamored for the likes of Blaine Gabbert or Christian Ponder. We wanted you to draft Cam Newton with your 5th pick (early when no one considered him the top pick) in 2011 and move up and get RGIII this year.

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I'm sure you will ),  but I seem to recall statements like, "You can have all pros at every position and STILL won't go anywhere without a QB"  (paraphrased, of course).

You guys will all be trying to get us to put Greg Little and Mohammed Massaquoi on the All AFC North Team this time next year.

My jury is still out on that one. 

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I'm sure you will),  but I seem to recall statements like, "You can have all pros at every position and STILL won't go anywhere without a QB"  (paraphrased, of course).

It's close. Never said you couldn't go anywhere but if your goal is to win a SB you better have a Top 5 QB.

. . . but if your goal is to win a SB you better have a Top 5 QB.

You mean like Eli ? 

You mean like Eli ? 


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Top 5 QB like Trent Dilfer,  Doug Williams,  Mark Rypien.....


enjoy,

bb

You mean like Eli ? 

Exactly like Eli. Guy is money.

Top 5 QB like Trent Dilfer,  Doug Williams,  Mark Rypien.....

How about this decade BB?

Top 5 QB like Trent Dilfer,  Doug Williams,  Mark Rypien.....

Vinny Testaverde, Steve Young, Josh Freeman,


Looking at Tampa picking 5 QBs in the 1st rd, makes me wonder what team has used the most 1st rd picks on QBs?

Tampa did a good job of picking SB winning QBs for other teams.

Looking at Tampa picking 5 QBs in the 1st rd, makes me wonder what team has used the most 1st rd picks on QBs?

I don't have the actual answer, but I know the Cleveland Browns drafted a LOT of Quarterbacks, three since 1999 in round one, most of whom sucked azz or have the potential of sucking butt.

1999- Tim Couch
2007- Brady Qunt
2012- Brandon Weeden

In other rounds:

2000- Spergeon Wynn (6th)
2004- Luke McCown (4th)
2005- Charlie Frye (3ed)
2010- Colt McCoy (3rd)

I think we all know about the QB carousel and what it does to your chance of winning Super  Bowls, it kills your chances of consistency. Occasionaly you find lightening in a bottle from the scrap heap: (Doug Williams, Steve Young) seems like Tampa does draft them but the Franchise sucks so bad they can't keep talent. The lone super bowl victory was from the Raiders coach Bill Callahan for being a complete jackass and not changing the playbook. Chuckie knew what was coming before the ball snapped.  I felt bad for Rod Woodson, would have liked him to get a second ring.


Here is a good link to save to your favorites, I use it for a variety of research.  To find the Browns QB I just clicked on position, then I just did a Control F  and entered in Browns.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.p
hp/positions/qb

Thanks for the link. NY

Hopefully most of you are sitting down when you read this mock.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013
charlie_1.php

Cincinatti drafting 14th? I see them around 20, they have some talent and don't suck on D.

Pittsburgh drafting 21th and taking DeMarcus Milliner, CB Alabama over Manti Te'o.

The Jets drafting after the Steelers. Bwahahahaha.

Baltimore drafting a TE at pick 28. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

TJ McDonald 28th?? and it gets worse, Eric Reed going 32nd to the Packers.  Does Charlie Campell realize the lack of depth at Safety in the 2013 draft??? You pass on Reid and McDonald and the next teir of safeties is rated well below them, too much of a gap to think both Safeties will last unitl the end of the 1st round.

Minnesota taking Keenan Allen 4th overall. I like him mid to late first, I don't think he compares to AJ Green or Calvin Johnson, which is what this early of a pick suggests. Robert Woods is going second! 2 WR in the first four picks, really?  What crack vial did this guy recycle?

Second round pick for Pittsburgh I also have to question, Sean Porter is on lighter side, the Steelers like the LB to be more stout. Even with the injury, I would take a shot at Shane Skov here, kid is just a football player. He can play inside, outside, run, pass, perfect fit for Tomlin and LeBeau.  Even though NFL draftscout has Porter as a late first rounder, I think Skov is more than a one trick pony. The roster already has Carter and Worilds, who might become something. Using a second rounder to sit third on the depth chart does not make much sense to me at all.  Skov replaces Foote eventually, prefferably they take Te'o in the first.

2013 is DEEP at cornerback, reminds me of 2011. So Charlies Campbells mock is out of whack. 4 CB going in the top 21 is not smart mocking at all.  Oday Aboushi OT, Virginnia going 26th only because Atlanta needs a tackle, that's a big reach.

Baltimore drafting a TE at pick 28.27 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

fixed it.

Second round pick for Pittsburgh I also have to question, Sean Porter is on lighter side, the Steelers like the LB to be more stout.

Yeah, ny, if we draft Porter I would think he'd need to be played inside. His calling card is his speed and explosiveness, some of which would be lost if he gained weight. He's just not a pass rusher at the NFL level IMO.

Next year's draft will be a PITA, CBS removed the links to the groups.  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

The only way I got into Three Rivers or Steelers War Board is with a Google search.



http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/groups
/moderate-members/8954419

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/groups
/post/13754654/35589847

WOW, crickets.....

Anyone else get the offer to open up a credit card and they wave the Sunday Ticket fee. LIke we need another credit card.... but I am thinking the Capital One card takes forever to build for anything worth a crap. Thinking about it, I save 300 beans before I even swipe it once.

Thoughts?  New subscribers get the Ticket for 199, but guys like me who have had it for 9 seasons get the bill for 299. Not thrilled about getting it shoved up the poop pipe, what are the other options? The Steelers will have maybe 6 games on tv in my market and forget the sports bars full of Patriot and Packer fans.... 

To the loyal readers, I am so sorry that I have not done much with the 2013 draft. Bottom line is that the surgery I had 3 weeks ago took away a lot of my energy. My focus is to regain my health, I hope everyone understands.

 

Peace out and thank ALL OF YOU for over 905,000 reads.

 

Thoughts?  New subscribers get the Ticket for 199, but guys like me who have had it for 9 seasons get the bill for 299. Not thrilled about getting it shoved up the poop pipe, what are the other options? The Steelers will have maybe 6 games on tv in my market and forget the sports bars full of Patriot and Packer fans.... 

Call them and tell them you want to cancle it. maybe they will offer you the better rate to keep it.

I found a really cool link, it lists the total amount of posts by author, here are your top ten contributors and total posts.

http://boardreader.com/thread/2009_
Steelers_Draft_and_Mel_Kiper_Sucks_
6gwr4X8qr2n.html

1.  nybites   1498
2.  burghball  1107
3.  steelers=sb   527
4.  Ravens2K  488
5.  demolisher43  471
6.  Steelroc74   465
7.  beachbum312  427
8.  rarebreed  160
9.  MANOSTEEL9423  114
10. Indiansteel327  98

The one that pops out to me is Indiana, did not realize he contributed so much. BTW it his birthday today, say Happy Birthday.

Also keep in mind this is recent activity, CBS and their cheap azz servers have deleted over 11,000 posts.