As long as he didn't bring in his son, Brian, I'd be all for it. A combination of Schottenheimer as HC and Brad Childress as OC would be a nice compliment. But hey what kind of wishful dreaming are we doing? Shurmur is coming back without question for some reason. But I like Irish's proposal of Clements from Green Bay as OC if they don't get Childress.
Schottenheimer, Schottenheimer and Schottenheimer
Jake ..i agree i would take 14 - 2 in less than a heartbeat . Marty knows how to win . his playoff failures done him in . for some reason i think the man is cursed after the regular season ends . so much for the Madden curse . i think the Marty curse is worse yet
So if Hue Jackson gets fired after one season, going 8-8 with a fairly impressive offensive..... How the hell do the Browns keep Turd Shurmur around after one 4-12 season with an anemic offense!!!???!!
I don't know Hue Jackson's history, but can we use him in Cleveland? It seems as though he did ok as a head coach this year.
Teams all over are hiring and firing coordinators left and right. Head coaches heads are flying. What do the Browns do? Go on vacation. When they get back from Florida or Hawaii (definately not the ProBowl) they will see what's left over and pick up another mini-puppet for OC....
Have a nice day...As long as your buying me plenty of Crex-A-Cola I'll survive.
So if Hue Jackson gets fired after one season, going 8-8 with a fairly impressive offensive..... How the hell do the Browns keep Turd Shurmur around after one 4-12 season with an anemic offense!!!???!!Wow, I knew most of you were upset with how the season went, but what I want to know is if everyone is serious about wanting to blow up the staff AGAIN....AGAIN...to see if we get lucky and something sticks for one decent season?
or more appropriately, how does Happy Holmgren keep Eric Mangini, who was not one of "his guys". At least McKenzie had the guts to "pull the trigger"...Jake, you hit the nail on the head! This is what I am most upset about is the fact we have to wait an extra year to get the system going that they intended on using all along.
CLEVELAND -- The Browns may soon be in the market for more than an offensive coordinator.
The Dallas Morning News is reporting that Browns defensive backs coach Jerome Henderson will rejoin former Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and take a similar position with the Cowboys.
Henderson joined the Browns in 2009 when Eric Mangini was named head coach. He was one of five Mangini assistants retained when Pat Shurmur succeeded Mangini in 2011.
In three years with Henderson as defensive backs coach, the Browns improved from 29th to 18th to second in pass defense.
At his season-ending press conference, Shurmur said he planned no staff changes other than hiring an offensive coordinator, but added, "Even though I don't plan any, there is nothing that says that somebody might make a change in their life and then I'll fill that position."The Denver Broncos defeated the Pittsburgh Steelers last Sunday to the delight of many Cleveland Browns fans, but what has the world come to with Browns fans wanting the Denver Broncos to win a game, any game?
Just in case you forgot, today is the 25-year anniversary of The Drive. That's when John Elway led the Broncos on a 98-yard drive to defeat the Browns, in Cleveland, and advance to the Super Bowl.
It still hurts.
I still hate Elway, but not as much as Art.
Rot in Hell Art!
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When Mike Holmgren was the coach in Green Bay, it was Brett Favre who was the game changer for the Packers. The future Hall of Fame quarterback was not drafted by Green Bay. Instead, General Manager Ron Wolf obtained Favre in a trade from Atlanta, where he was a backup.
Holmgren's next coaching stop was Seattle, where he inherited quarterback Jon Kitna. After 9-7 and 6-10 seasons, he dumped Kitna and added two quarterbacks -- Matt Hasselbeck and Trent Dilfer.
Also serving as Seattle's general manager, Holmgren signed Dilfer as a free agent after the quarterback had won a Super Bowl for Baltimore. He also made a deal with his former team -- Green Bay -- for Hasselbeck, who was a backup to Favre.
It was Hasselbeck who eventually led the Seahawks to the 2005 Super Bowl.
When he became president of the Browns before the 2010 season, Holmgren signed veteran Jake Delhomme as a free agent and traded for Seneca Wallace, who had been his backup quarterback in Seattle.
What's the point of this history lesson? When faced with a quarterback question, Holmgren has often turned to quarterbacks already in the NFL.
Colt McCoy was the exception to that. Holmgren selected him in the third round of 2010. After Delhomme and Wallace were injured, McCoy took over at quarterback in 2010 -- and had the job at the start of 2011.
Now, Holmgren and coach Pat Shurmur are talking about an open competition at the position in 2012. It wouldn't be a shock if Holmgren and General Manager Tom Heckert look around the league for a quarterback, rather than just use one of their draft picks.
Most of the speculation has been about Matt Flynn, the backup in Green Bay who is probably headed to free agency unless the Packers make him a franchise player for about $14 million -- and then try to trade him and that huge contract.
Either way, Flynn is destined for monster money. He's been with the Packers for four years and has started two games. The first was in 2010, when he was 24-of-37 passing for 251 yards, three touchdowns and one interception. The other game was the 480-yard, six-touchdown explosion in the final game of 2011 against Detroit.
Not exactly a large sample of stats for Flynn, who didn't even start at LSU until his senior season. Flynn then led his team to the national title. But he is in a form of the West Coast offense and he should have at least some appeal to the Browns.
The Plain Dealer's Tony Grossi raised the idea of Kevin Kolb, now with Arizona. He is due a $7 million roster bonus in March. He is 27 and was 2-6 as a starter for Arizona. He suffered a turf toe injury and a concussion. John Skelton replaced Kolb, and was 6-2 as a starter.
To be completely accurate, there was a game Kolb started, threw one pass, was injured. Skelton took over to lead Arizona to a victory. That's why some places list Kolb's record is 3-6, but the victory in that game really belonged to Skelton. So far, Arizona has not indicated that Skelton is the 2012 starter, but it's possible the Browns could work a trade. Kolb was originally the 36th pick in the 2007 draft by Philadelphia, where Heckert ran the draft and Shurmur was an assistant coach. In that 2007 draft, Kolb was the third quarterback selected -- behind JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn.
It's no secret that Heckert has long believed Kolb has the right stuff to start in the NFL, especially in the West Coast offense. Arizona didn't run that offense this season, when Kolb had nine touchdown passes, eight interceptions and a 81.1 rating.
It's early January. So much can happen between before the April 26 draft. There is a free agency. There are trades. I have a feeling the Browns will be in the middle of a deal that involves a quarterback.
From Andrew Perloff at SI.com:
2. Cleveland Browns -- Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor (Trade with St. Louis)
The Rams don't need a quarterback, but with a manageable price tag for rookies because of the salary slotting system, they'll get calls from Cleveland, Miami and Washington about moving up to land Griffin. After last season's draft-day trade with the Falcons, the Browns have an extra first-rounder and can put together the best package. Griffin may have more tools than Luck, but Luck is more valuable because he ran a pro system at Stanford. Griffin completed 72.4 percent of his passes, a dazzling number even in the defensively challenged Big 12. Cleveland ranked No. 29 in offense with Colt McCoy running the show and would likely be ready to hand the keys of the offense over to Griffin immediately. Pat Shurmur is a West Coast guy, but would adjust his system to suit Griffin's talents if he had to.
With a pick now in the top 5 the Browns have to consider taking a franchise QB. Griffin has the potential to be a super star, and could be a major upgrade over Colt McCoy. McCoy is a solid starter, but he’s likely not ever going to develop into a top 10 or 15 guy.
The Browns need to find another target for their new quarterback, and Jeffery is the best receiver on the board. Him and Little could team up to give the Browns to big play targets. Combine them with Griffin and you have the makings of a pretty devastating passing attack.
4. Cleveland Browns: Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
2012 NFL Mock Draft #1 QB
I previously had the Browns taking Trent Richardson in my last update but am starting to get on board with them taking a QB. With that being said I think that the Browns could take Robert Griffin III and let him sit behind McCoy and learn for a year or half of a year until he learns the play book and the NFL. Once he does so I think Griffin has a ton of potential and the most upside of any player in this 2012 NFL Mock Draft.
22. Cleveland Browns (ATL): Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
2012 NFL Mock Draft Wide Receiver
The Cleveland Browns select a top tier Wide Receiver in this 2012 NFL Mock Draft. However, in this NFL Mock Draft I have Floyd falling to the 23rd pick but I would not be surprised to see him go in the top 15 of the actual 2012 NFL Draft. I see him coming in just behind Alshon Jeffery as the 3rd best Wide Receiver in this 2012 NFL Mock Draft. Additionally I see Mohammed Sanu as a late first round Wide Receiver prospect as well.
First one I found with the Browns not taking RGIII
4.)<strong style="color: #ffffff;"><strong style="color: #ffffff;">Browns (4-12): RB Trent Richardson- Alabama
Team Needs: COMING SOON...
NOTE: Peyton Hillis won't be back and it is probably a smart move that Cleveland refuse to overpay a Big RB that only had 1 big season, also Big RB's usually don't last very long in the NFL. Trent Richardson is a DURABLE Workhorse RB and a Playmaker. Of course RGIII would make a lot of sense here...but with the Browns HISTORY of Bad Luck when it comes to drafting QB's, it would probably be best to past on trying to draft yet another QB and sign a Free Agent or Trade for one. Packers back up QB Matt Flynn would be a Excellent Fit because he is already familiar with the West Coast Offense!
